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Here's the skinny on the translation patch, since the original thread turned into a bit of a mess.Q: What is this?A: An English translation patch for the Samurai Spirits RPG.Q: What platform is this going to be on?A: Neo.Geo CD only.Q: What about the Saturn and PSX versions?A: I don't have the means to hack/translate either. The NeoCD is the best of the three, anyway.Q: Is there going to be a cost?A: No. The patch will be completely free of charge. If you are so inclined, however, you are welcome to donate by going here (No compensation is expected, though it is always appreciated.Q: Is this compatible with Neo.Geo CD emulators?A: Partially. The only version of Nebula that I can personally attest to working is 2.23a. It runs fine in NeoCD/PSP, as well.Q: Which versions of the Neo.Geo CD will it work with?A: The original front loading and top-loading 1x systems can be used without issue. For a CDZ, you will need to further patch the ISO to get around the copy protection.Q: How do I do that?A: I don't know, and the answers will not be provided in this FAQ.

Do some research and ask around.Q: I found a prepatched archive to make a copy of SSRPG work on the CDZ. Can I use this?A: No.

The translation patch has to modify the same files, and the use of that prepatched archive will break the translation.Q: Can I betatest the patch?A: No. I have beta testers already.Q: When will this be released?A: When it's completed. Not before.Q: When will that be?A: I don't know. I have a job, a wife, two stepkids, seven cats and a dog. This is a hobby.Q: Are the original Japanese voices going to be left intact?A: Yes, thanks to neo-geo.com's own Murray.

Originally, for technical reasons, I had to leave them out of the Mizuki chapter. The text is precisely timed to display as the voices are heard, and the dialogue boxes are advanced automatically. So with the change to English text, I have to adjust the speed commands accordingly, or it falls out of sync, and everything comes off wrong.

With Murray's help, that is no longer a live issue.Q: You're not going to dub the game in English, are you? I hate dubs!A: No.Q: Does it matter what region my console is?A: No. The patched game will always play in English, just as the unpatched one always plays in Japanese.Q: What's the English title going to be?A: 'Samurai Shodown: Tales of the Bushido'Q: Why are you calling it 'Samurai Shodown' instead of 'Samurai Spirits?' A: Because the name of the series is 'Samurai Shodown' outside of Japan. The translated name of this game will reflect that.Q: But isn't 'Samurai Spirits RPG' the actual title of the game?A: No, the original title is 'Shinsetsu Samurai Spirits: Bushidou Retsuden.' This translates more or less to 'A new take on Samurai Spirits: A set of bushido stories.'

Q: How accurate is the translation going to be?A: This patch is going to be done up properly. The only Romaji you're going to see is for proper names, like for people and places, and words that have been appropriated into English, like samurai, katana and dojo.

Movenames will be translated to English. You will not see any uses of Japanese honorifics. No -chan, -kun, -sama or any of that. No, I will not change my mind on this, and no, I will not do an alternate version.Q: But it's not accurate if it's not full of Japanese words!A: Then play it without the patch.

I'm not interested in catering to obsessive fanboys.Q: Why didn't you use the font SNK used for the non-Japanese text in the game?A: The original English font in the game was 16x16 pixels per character, which would've halved the available space per screen to put in text (which is already at a premium).Q: Why not use the English font from SS2 or SS4?A: The original arcade font is only in capital letters, and it's kind of ugly, to be honest. All well and good for the short snippets of text in the arcade games, but for the ongoing reading that TotB requires, it's a little eye-straining.Q: Are you still working on this?A: Yes. Regardless of how long it may eventually take, I will see the translation completed.Q: How much is done?A: The script is completely finished. What's being done now is working on getting the combat menus looking right.Q: Why haven't you put up any new screenshots lately?A: When there is enough progress to show new pictures, I will post them.

The text is divided up by area. An incompletely-translated area cannot be inserted. If there's no new pictures, that means there's nothing new that can be shown ingame yet.Q: What assurance do I have that you won't up and quit this project?A: You have none, other than my statement that it won't happen.Q: Will you give me the utilities you used to make this patch?A: No. They were custom-made and were not intended for redistribution. They are also not mine to give.Q: Then will you help me make a version in a language other than English?A: No. Sorry, but I dislike derived translations.Q: Why do you have a problem with people asking when the translation will be done?A: Because no one likes to be hounded. When the patch is done, it'll be released, and you can bet your ass I'll be promoting it like mad.

You'll see a link in my signature. You'll see a post stating that it's finished and ready to play. I know people are waiting for it. Believe me, I want it to be completed, too; if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing this.Q: What's with the attitude?A: Because being constantly asked when it's going to be done is frustrating and puts me in a bad mood.If your questions are not answered here, please ask and I will update this post accordingly. It's been said many times before, but it still bears repeating: Thank you Deuce for undertaking such a monumental task.I've tried to play the game in the past (I printed out a graphical FAQ years ago), but alas the load times eventually got to me.I've been following your progress and I've learned that SSRPG is the most graphically beautiful Neo-Geo game. I've been studying the graphics and they did not cut any corners in the graphics department. Oh sure there are some instances of copy and paste, but they did a damn good job of hiding them.So now I have the original game and a rom, so now it's time to show off some of the visual greatness.

I present to a visual buffet for your eyes.big city (Cham's home (home (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/rockwell/ssrpg/nakoruru1-1.png). I have a few questions about SSRPG that aren't very clear on the FAQs.Depending on the character you use, what exactly changes in the story? Is the main story the same and variates depending on your character or are there major changes?And what about the ending, is it the same for every character or is it different?Does it have (maybe) a different dialogue after you beat the last boss depending on your character or is it a generic one?And is there just one ending after you beat all the chapters or does each chapter have it's own ending?Thanks in advance guys. Well, the paths through both chapters are relatively the same regardless of the 'main' character you pick. Both chapters have pretty much the same story, but it is played through the point of view of the 'main' character you picked. The 'main' character also has a small part of the story devoted to them exclusively somewhere in each of the 2 scenarios. The 'main' character you pick also has an effect as to what other 'main' characters and secondary characters you can pair up with.

For example, using Genjuro as a main character is unique in that he pairs up with nobody, and fights alone.The ending for the Amakusa chapter is unique for each main character, but I THINK the Mizuki ending follows relatively the same route, except that of course it is played through your character's point of view, so the conversations would likely be different. Well, guys, I have good news and bad news.The bad news is, the release is going to be delayed a little longer.The good news is, the delay is because I now have a way to get the voiced properly timed throughout the game, so the Mizuki chapter will have the voiceover after all! I'll have to take extra time to go over the script and get all of the voiced bits done up properly.And you can blame/thank the good Murray for his ridiculously awesome hindrance/contribution.:buttrock:Dude, we've already waited over 11 years for something like this.

Another 11 hours isn't going to hurt.:). Well, guys, I have good news and bad news.The bad news is, the release is going to be delayed a little longer.The good news is, the delay is because I now have a way to get the voiced properly timed throughout the game, so the Mizuki chapter will have the voiceover after all! I'll have to take extra time to go over the script and get all of the voiced bits done up properly.And you can blame/thank the good Murray for his ridiculously awesome hindrance/contribution.:buttrock:That's great news. This is actually getting me to buy a Neo-Geo CD so I can play it the proper way too. Thanks Kazuki Dash I understand the important of a translation patch and how all the people want to finally play this game (including a crazy dude from argentina) but I don't ask how to crack the protection of the game?

My question is what's the problem whit the CDZ protection and the patch? Becouse in the CPY.TXT file there is no information of the game.Originally Posted by Deuce If your questions are not answered here, please ask and I will update this post accordingly.one more time sorry for my english. Hi all.first i would like 2 thankx Duce for this work really i love it.and i thank the ppl who care for this theard. I have been playing this game from along time and finish it its really great game specialy when u play king of fighters rpg after u finish this.its only in neogeo cd version.im trying 2 make the game in flash and i would like some help from u guys.how can i rip the music and the sounds from the game.i already have the sprite sheet and the backgrounds etc.etc.i just need how 2 rip music and the most important thing is the sound of the characters in the game if there is any help plz tell meand thank you all again:). That's hardly the most cynical thing I've ever said. Hell, it's not even the most cynical thing I've said today. Regardless, progress has stalled out at the moment, primarily due to some real-life stuff.

Still will be done. What's left is basically a few aesthetic bits and the voice timing.

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Tedium, basically. Also, the timing program can't be used at my work, which is where I tended to get all of the script translation work done. The project isn't dead. It's just on a short hold, while I get some games off my to-play list and relax. No idea since my webpage is dead. Most likely I will post it at UnderGround Gamer to replace the old one there and perhaps on Mega Uploads.

I will post the link whenever it gets done.;)thats just awesome man. So, the old one you had, was it also patched to work on CDZ? How long do you think patching the shit will take after deuce is done with it? I heard it was quite easy, like minute work. Is this true? Not that it would matter if it would take a few days or weeks, though i heard its easy, so great news:smirk:.

Thats just awesome man. So, the old one you had, was it also patched to work on CDZ?

How long do you think patching the shit will take after deuce is done with it? I heard it was quite easy, like minute work. Is this true?

Not that it would matter if it would take a few days or weeks, though i heard its easy, so great news:smirk:.The old one I have on UnderGround Gamer has the patches of all the games for NeoCD ingame protection with all the CDZ files cracked also. It shouldnt take very long to crack the ingame protection after Deuce is done with the patch. Ive been working on building a mini theatre at home and redoing the rest of the house as well so Ive been extra busy so as long as that doesnt get in the way the game should be cracked overnight once the final patch is in my hands. Oh and the CDZ cracked file from the old kit of mine should still work fine as that file is not being patched for any reason as far as I can tell. So in the end only the ingame protection will need to be cracked once Deuce is done with his English patch.;).

Look unless we are paying Deuce for his work, we should leave the man to do what he has to do.I am sure he has a job, girlfriend and the rest of the realife bullshitI agree. This is a hobby, not a job. There is no deadline and no guarantees.

Support is welcomed and appreciated but it only takes one person to ruin it for everyone, including the translator.Also, he's married with two children, assorted pets, a FT job, a mortgage and all of the responsibilities that those entail. This is a side project, which means it is worked on in the little spare time that is left. As you can imagine, that's not much.Deuce, surely the project you've spent all your valuable time on is too important to be ruined by some loser on a forum. Who cares what he thinks. Don't let him get to you.Allow me to step in and clarify something.

The project is in no way ruined by some megalomaniac on a message board. The project will be finished but it's Deuce's call as to whether or not it is ever released. Yes, one person can ruin it for everyone. No one is entitled to the finished works.

Allow me to step in and clarify something. The project is in no way ruined by some megalomaniac on a message board. The project will be finished but it's Deuce's call as to whether or not it is ever released. Yes, one person can ruin it for everyone. No one is entitled to the finished works.Not releasing it would ruin it, but make no mistake, no one is entitled to Deuce's work other than him. I'm just saying some random ass on a message board shouldn't have any bearing on the outcome of the project. Don't give him the power because he doesn't deserve it, nor should he think he gets any say in what happens.

In the context of such a lot of hard work, these comments are petty and unimportant. Not releasing it would ruin it, but make no mistake, no one is entitled to Deuce's work other than him.

I'm just saying some random ass on a message board shouldn't have any bearing on the outcome of the project. Don't give him the power because he doesn't deserve it, nor should he think he gets any say in what happens. In the context of such a lot of hard work, these comments are petty and unimportant.Please don't misunderstand what I was trying to say. The project itself cannot be ruined. The project is to translate the game and that is done (all that is left to be done is voice timing, which is mind bendingly tedious). The project isn't the release of the finished patch. That is a courtesy provided if Deuce feels like it.I'm sorry if this comes across as snide or unfeeling but it is the truth.

Just because someone shouldn't have an impact on whether or not this patch is released isn't to say that it won't happen. As petty and unimportant as they are, they make a big difference when this is a voluntary expenditure of time that can better be spent doing other things, with people who don't pick and prod and badger and belittle.Also, just so that it's known, I am Deuce's wife. Believe me when I say that I have spent the better part of two years supporting the conception and completion of this project, with no benefit to myself other than the pride taken in his abilities and his works. I have had to watch my husband fight with seemingly senseless limitations, all for the personal satisfaction of seeing his work finished. I have watched the progress, proud of his accomplishments and frustrated at those limitations within the programs or the game itself.

I have stood by while someone threatened my children out of childish spite, simply because he wasn't getting his way.I am grateful for the people who support this project. I am very grateful for the people who stood up when someone was out of line. I am also grateful to the modmins for ensuring that this person can no longer be a distraction or a disturbance. Still, the damage has been done and Deuce is the only person who knows when, or even if, work will resume on the remainder of the patch.

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I will support his decision, no matter what it may be, whether or not it is the popular outcome. Still, the damage has been done and Deuce is the only person who knows when, or even if, work will resume on the remainder of the patch. I will support his decision, no matter what it may be, whether or not it is the popular outcome.That would be a shame. I know Deuce has worked hard on it, and it would be awful to have some retard on the internet make him change his mind about the whole project.

I think on the Internet you have to have thicker skin than that. Humanity is mostly composed of idiots, so you can't take it to heart when one of them comes along and tries to get under you skin. At any rate, the vast majority of us have all been grateful for his quality work, and hope we get to see this patch released. I will be honest I think Deuce should close this thread and not post up anythingI believe he should PM peeps once its all finished, so only the good ones get it instead of him being bugged.Nah, this fine work of fan translation should be made public to anyone who would like it. As it would seem to me the more people enjoy Deuce's work, the more appreciation he will receive.

Projects like these that require quite some dedication should be published in a spotlight IMO, offering a higher chance of their continued survival in the future.Still, that's only my 2cents, ultimately it will be up to Deuce of course. Nah, this fine work of fan translation should be made public to anyone who would like it. As it would seem to me the more people enjoy Deuce's work, the more appreciation he will receive.

I've made no threats to not release the patch, nor any promises to release it. But no one has the 'right' to my work except me.

Sure, plenty of people would love to play the game in English. But contrary to the Want-Take-Have mentality that so permeates the internet, desire does not equal privilege.There are none so ungrateful as those who receive something for nothing.Wow apparently I've missed a lot. I mentioned in the old thread that certain types of people can and have ruined fan projects in the past, but I never thought it could come close to happening on this one.If it gets released, that'll be great, since it'll be my first RPG. If not, bummer but oh well.Some people have their priorities so out of whack on stuff like this.

If only they could realize that being patient and not worrying about it does more for them than pestering (because if the project were to get cancelled, it would be through no fault of theirs).It's all too easy for the author of a PITA project to just say 'fuck it', and even more so when given a reason to, in the form of someone like losermaru. There are none so ungrateful as those who receive something for nothing.my cousin was into gta online and was making changes to the files for the cars.make them faster, stronger, fly, ect.he was editing one to drive up walls and someone asked how he did this so he spent 3 days helping him.the next day he gos online and the guy he just helped was on there raging on someone for asking how he did that to his car.he was saying 'figure it out your self' my cousin got pissed yelled at the guy then deleted his site telling people how to do the different things & never went t online with it again. My cousin was into gta online and was making changes to the files for the cars.make them faster, stronger, fly, ect.he was editing one to drive up walls and someone asked how he did this so he spent 3 days helping him.the next day he gos online and the guy he just helped was on there raging on someone for asking how he did that to his car.he was saying 'figure it out your self' my cousin got pissed yelled at the guy then deleted his site telling people how to do the different things & never went t online with it again.aaahh, touching story. My cousin was into gta online and was making changes to the files for the cars.make them faster, stronger, fly, ect.he was editing one to drive up walls and someone asked how he did this so he spent 3 days helping him.the next day he gos online and the guy he just helped was on there raging on someone for asking how he did that to his car.he was saying 'figure it out your self' my cousin got pissed yelled at the guy then deleted his site telling people how to do the different things & never went t online with it again.BWAA! That'll show everybody. I never wanted a birthday party anyway. That'll show everybody.

I never wanted a birthday party anyway.I think you miss the point. It's hard to keep up the motivation to work on such a lengthy project when you get a big faceful of Why Bother shoved into your face.

I've translated several games, and seeing the casual indifference (or worse, occasional piracy-profiteering) that comes of such freely-given hard work has given me pause more than a few times. But I kept going. In the end, I can't afford for it to be about anyone but me. The work I do, I do for the personal satisfaction. Ultimately, nothing else matters.For those wondering, btw, the project is not dead.

It just hasn't been worked on in a bit. I have a vacation coming up in the immediate future (quitting one job, to start another mid-June), with no kids around.

So, I intend to try putting some finishing touches on the patch. Maybe a summer release. No promises, though. Jesus Christ.You losers can't even wait until the patch is out to start talking about hacking it and pirating it?And not even that, you say it in front of Deuce like it's nothing, especially after he has expressed his distaste for such things.You guys were surely taught well at home.I'm all for locking this thread to avoid more begging posts from noobs that will eventually end up pissing Deuce off.When the patch is done I'm sure Deuce will make another thread for it, this one has degraded to sewer levels already. Are you talking to me hines26? If so I read some of the first thread the one that duece said got crazy, but then I found this one, I was following the dates on post trying to read the most recent entries, thats how I found this one. This is a cool forum though, neo geo and neo geo cd seems to be some good consoles that got pushed to the wayside, But I'm quickly developing a serious lust for the hardware.

Now I have to track down a Neo CD system and a copy of SS: RPG.Oh wait, those are good things:)Thanks a million Deuce just for giving us the hope.I've wanted to play this game in English since it came out. Just the thought of that is awesome. It's even more awesome that you've done stuff like tweak the timing so the subs match lip movements - there are a lot of professional localization teams that don't put as much effort into their translations.Thanks for making such a great contribution to the gaming community. I just wanted to say I am stoked for this translation, and I really like the script Deuce has chosen to go with.it corresponds to the menus very well imo. We all just have to be patient and let him do his thing.I've been waiting for 2 years for Quest for Glory II to be remade in VGA by AGD Interactive, so it's nothing new to me! Just think how awesome it will be when it comes out, and in the meantime play whatever neo-geo/cd games u got!Keep up the good work, I've always wanted to play this rpg, but the language barrier was a bit much.

I just wanted to say I am stoked for this translation, and I really like the script Deuce has chosen to go with.it corresponds to the menus very well imo. We all just have to be patient and let him do his thing.I've been waiting for 2 years for Quest for Glory II to be remade in VGA by AGD Interactive, so it's nothing new to me!

Just think how awesome it will be when it comes out, and in the meantime play whatever neo-geo/cd games u got!Keep up the good work, I've always wanted to play this rpg, but the language barrier was a bit much.why would you want an updated QFG2? So you can see more with the x-ray specs?

Just a minor update. Work has resumed. No screenshots, as what's being worked on can't be reflected in still images. But I'm working on getting the text timed to match the Japanese voiceovers where they show up in the Mizuki chapter. It's slow going, but I think I may be able to recruit one or two folks into helping speed the work along. And no, this doesn't mean access to the beta. This is purely grunt work.

Comparing line durations, tweaking parameters and getting things to match with absolute precision.But yes, the project lives.And there was much rejoicing. Just a minor update. Work has resumed. No screenshots, as what's being worked on can't be reflected in still images.

But I'm working on getting the text timed to match the Japanese voiceovers where they show up in the Mizuki chapter. It's slow going, but I think I may be able to recruit one or two folks into helping speed the work along. And no, this doesn't mean access to the beta. This is purely grunt work. Comparing line durations, tweaking parameters and getting things to match with absolute precision.But yes, the project lives.And there was much rejoicing.

(.yaaaaay.)but do you get access to the beta? Just a note for those still interested. I've managed to squeeze in some time to work on voice timing, and have gotten two more files completed. So far, so good. It's marginally less dull-and-tedious than it used to be (yay for custom tools), so hopefully it'll move a little more quickly from here on out. Sorry for the lack of visual progress, but I'll see if I can get some video captured here soon. My laptop isn't equipped to do so very well, so I have to use a DVD video recorder, which is a bit of a pain.

I'll see if I can get the first area completely done before I upload a couple of videos for your viewing pleasure. Just a note for those still interested. I've managed to squeeze in some time to work on voice timing, and have gotten two more files completed. So far, so good. It's marginally less dull-and-tedious than it used to be (yay for custom tools), so hopefully it'll move a little more quickly from here on out. Sorry for the lack of visual progress, but I'll see if I can get some video captured here soon. My laptop isn't equipped to do so very well, so I have to use a DVD video recorder, which is a bit of a pain.

I'll see if I can get the first area completely done before I upload a couple of videos for your viewing pleasure.you're such a perfectionist. Most people would have released it already. You're such a perfectionist. Most people would have released it already.Most people would have stopped about halfway through the Amakusa chapter and decided it wasn't worth the time and/or effort.;PAnd once it's actually ready, then there's the not-so-simple matter of figuring out how to distribute it.

That's going to require some doing, and some assistance from a friend who's far more CD-ROM tech-savvy than I. Hopefully, one will be able to pop in an original CD and run the patch EXE, which will then create (or maybe directly burn?) a playable image. Plus there's the ever-present question of the datatrack-only patch.

Regardless, the CD image will have to be rebuilt. No two ways about that, as the sizes for many of the data files are not the same (so PPFs and the like won't work). Thanks for all your hard work Deuce. I wouldn't see a problem with a 'requested donation' of some sort. I'd gladly pay for all of your hard work.Q: Is there going to be a cost?A: No.

The patch will be completely free of charge. If you are so inclined, however, you are welcome to donate by going here (No compensation is expected, though it is always appreciated.In other news, the voice-timing is coming right along.

Up through the first major boss encounter, which puts the Mizuki chapter at maybe 15% timed (but not tested). Hopefully, the method being used will be mostly foolproof. Well, folks, I have some bad news. Not catastrophic news, though it feels like it to me at the moment.:P Don't worry, there's no 'mysterious HD crash' or anything like that. Just a stupid mistake that ballooned into a massively stupid mistake.The voice timing, which I was projecting to have finished last night, has hit a major snag. As it turns out, one of the calculations used to determine the durations of the original Japanese lines was off. This means that I've got to do some research, figure out exactly how far off it is, if there are any other variables involved, and then error-check/correct the entire Mizuki chapter script's timing.To say I'm not thrilled about this is putting it mildly.

Hopefully, it won't push back my intended release date, but right now, just thinking about it puts me in a horrible mood. It almost feels like this would have been a programming meeting at the old SNK offices. I can see it now:(two SNK guys on their way to a conference room for a meeting on upcoming U.S. Market releases)'So how's the coding for the new Samurai Spirits CD game going?'

'I hear they're gonna be presenting their progress at the meeting today.' I've been wondering how much of a pain it's been to translate it for the U.S. 'I heard it hasn't been easy, but the great thing is they got the right guy for the job this time.' 'Man, that's a relief. Remember the fiasco we had with the U.S.

Translation for SS2?' The head office had a fit when they heard how badly that went.' 'Remember them chewing out Johnson for actually having that one female character's dialogue include the word 'S.t' on-screen?' 'Yeah, they couldn't fire his ass fast enough.' (both men laugh as they walk into the conference room). It almost feels like this would have been a programming meeting at the old SNK offices.

I can see it now:Oh, there will be homages to some of SS2's more memorable lines. Mostly in playing through as Cham Cham, but a few others here and there.Ouch. Have you been able to do any testing with the new timing calculator's data? Does it look like the new parameters are correct?So far, so good.

I've gotten three files done again, and the timing parameters seem to match up with the flow ofthe original Japanese.I may wind up releasing a 'public beta' of sorts, in hopes that people will send me reports of any egregious misfires of dialogue, so that I can fix it. I don't know. Public betas are mostly just a shitstorm of leechers, with a tiny handful of people who are genuinely interested in helping.

I may wind up releasing a 'public beta' of sorts, in hopes that people will send me reports of any egregious misfires of dialogue, so that I can fix it. I don't know. Public betas are mostly just a shitstorm of leechers, with a tiny handful of people who are genuinely interested in helping.That's so negative. Isn't that the point of betas anyway? For people to use it and then report corrections? Maybe even one of the leechers will find a problem and decide to report it.

Cheer up, at least this community is behind you 100%. That's so negative. Isn't that the point of betas anyway? For people to use it and then report corrections?That's the theory. But more realistically, most people will take it as is, simply to play it, and ignore any errors that aren't insurmountable, and will never provide feedback.Negative, perhaps, but it's also the truth. Just like any other grouping in existence (games, movies, bands, people, tv shows, toys, etc.).

You have to sift through a whole lot of garbage before you find anything of value. Is the timing you're doing anything like subtitle timing for DVD or other video?

I'm guessing that you have to write the timing index, create a new ISO, mount it up, load your save game and test it?Sadly, it's not that simple. I'll put up a snippet of text as an example.Senkaku! Grant me power! All thepower you can!Now that we've lost some of theAnimus Bells, I must have it! And the arguments tell the system which character portrait to display. If the one specified isn't preloaded into memory, it simply won't appear. Is the number of ticks (1 tick = 1/60th of a second) to wait before displaying the next character of text.

Note that it always takes 1 tick to display a character, and the value starts at 0. So actually means 'take the normal 1 tick to display the character, then wait six ticks before displaying the next one.' As is, that command sets the speed to 6 ticks between each character until the system is told otherwise. On its own means 'wait exactly ten ticks, or 1/6th of a second.'

And together are used for an extended pause. For instance:This means take the decimal value 24, add it to the current decimal value of the current speed, and pause for that long before proceeding.

(This took a long time to figure out, and is one of the main reasons I'm having to re-time all of this stuff).Anytime there is an assigned speed other than, the game auto-advances the text window. Otherwise, control of advancing the window is up to the player.

So when a speech is over, it always ends with.Make sense? I believe I understand.Since the timing is based on character by character advancement, not only are all the timings progressive, but synchronization also requires that they be adjusted differently for each chunk of dialog because the duration is directly affected by the number of characters. So if a line of dialog needs to last two seconds and has 50 characters you have to divide the number of characters into 120 ticks and use the result (rounded down to 2) as the second argument in the tag.

And since you have to use integers, you also have to pad out the leftover ticks (20) with timed pauses. And that's all assuming that the dialog flows normally without awkward pauses in the middle.Or in other words it's like trying to juggle cubes of jell-o while walking through a minefield.So is the dialog actually laid out in some pseudo-markup language files in the game like the samples you showed, or are you using some sort of interpreter to decode it from hex?I hope your liver can handle all of the Advil you must be going through, and thanks for satisfying my curiosity. Or in other words it's like trying to juggle cubes of jell-o while walking through a minefield.That's a fairly apt description. Now, imagine my frustration when I discovered that, after being about 98% complete with timing the voiced parts of the Mizuki chapter, that the command doesn't work with hexadecimal, but only with decimal commands? The code there is fairly robust, in that if it receives a hexadecimal argument, it simply turns control back over to the player.

Hence my frustration at discovering I'd have to re-do two months' worth of work, and the fact that I'm not going to make my original intended release date of New Years' Eve.:PSo is the dialog actually laid out in some pseudo-markup language files in the game like the samples you showed, or are you using some sort of interpreter to decode it from hex?Originally, it's all in hexadecimal. The enigmatic Guest over on the Aeon Genesis forums wrote a script extractor/inserter, which is my primary tool. I had to then view the sprite file containing the font, apply the right palette, and adjust it to be readable. Once I figured that out, I was able to use the PHP application known as FEIDIAN to extract the whole mess to one huge BMP file. But basically, what I did was find the file that contained the very first line from Ukyo's intro, and replaced it with an in-order series of commands to display every single character in the font. Since the original font was 16x16 pixels, the text window allowed for 16x2 characters per screen. Took tons of screenshots, and had to manually transcribe each one of those characters to a table file, to match the corresponding Kanji to its appropriate hex value.This process has to be done for most non-official translations in some form or another, but for SSRPG it was pretty tedious, as the Kanji table was over 1500 entries long.

Katakana, hiragana, the whole Roman character set, and hundreds of Kanji (several of which are somewhat archaic and not in common use anymore). Each had to be manually figured out and put into Shift-JIS for the table. Once the table was complete, then when you run the script dumper, instead of getting nothing but a bunch of hex values like all run together, you get a shift-JIS text file. Then you figure out which ones are control codes, like and and and and and all that.The script dumper still works, even without a complete table. But with the table intact, you'll get this:うおおおぉぉぉぉぉしゃあ助太刀するぞ！Instead of every single item in and every SJIS character being a hex or decimal value like the. I had to then build an English table to work from. And since the font routine wasn't hacked, I was still restricted to 16x16 tiles.

In order to get around this, I had to put together every possible combination of 8x16 letters and appropriate symbols in the available space. Less of an issue than it might otherwise be, since the Kanji table was so big to start with. But it does limit my options with certain subtleties of the script, since there's no way to print a single character without another character next to it (even if it's just a space).And all that's just for getting the script to display English text. Doesn't even cover translation. Or the work done on the title screen, or the hex editing required to get the intro looking right. Or the FIX graphic edits to make the combat menus non-Kanji.

And there's still plenty of work to be done there.It's been a labor of love, and trust me, you guys had better be glad I love SS like I do.:spock. Could you describe how it is limiting? I'm not sure I completely understand. But this is very interesting stuff. Thank you for posting it.Well, for an example, when the original script uses an ellipsis, they often pad it out for dramatic effect. Like so:オレの知っている波音に・・・So you get the first bit of text, a 1/6th of a second pause before that name (the two Kanji), then 1/6th/sec pause before the first period of the ellipsis. 1/3rd of a second pause before the next one.

And finally half a second pause before the final one. So a full second passes for the ellipsis to be completed, to give dramatic emphasis to the subject at hand.When I do an ellipsis in the English, everything has to be in pairs. So even if an ellipsis is by itself, it has to have a trailing space.' 'This is made up of two actual tiles in the character table.

' Thus, I'm not allowed the same level of subtlety. I can't place pauses between whatever letter I wish. It has to be on a position in the line divisible by 2.There are a handful of instances where the ellipsis is the sole content of the line, or is important enough to merit retaining, even if it means sacrificing consistency, so I would use the following:'. 'And the control codes enable a great deal of control over the speed of the text during voiced portions. I'm trying to make everything 'fit' properly, so it doesn't come off feeling like a cheap fansub, but even now, I'm still largely shooting in the dark.

I can only hope that the end result is as effective as the timing utility says that it will be.If it seems like it's taking unnaturally long, this is perfectly natural. Be glad I'm not an ASM hacker on top of all of this, or else I'd be working on trying to rewrite the font routine to enable 8x16 text (like most Neo games).What I'd love to do (more as a fun vanity project, really) is to re-translate SS2 to give the English version all of the gravity and grimness that the original Japanese carried. A lot of the lines, translated properly and with the right tone, would shock long-time fans of the game. Sadly, unless someone steps to hack it and get the script going for me (ideally with an 8x8 font), it won't happen. Now, imagine my frustration when I discovered that, after being about 98% complete with timing the voiced parts of the Mizuki chapter, that the command doesn't work with hexadecimal, but only with decimal commands? The code there is fairly robust, in that if it receives a hexadecimal argument, it simply turns control back over to the player.That can't have been a pretty moment when you discovered that.

Still, I find those things tend to go a little smoother the second time around; hopefully that's how it was for you. If I understand your process right, I bet it would have been nice if the code just broke when it got an invalid value rather than stringing you along for months thinking it was working.In order to get around this, I had to put together every possible combination of 8x16 letters and appropriate symbols in the available space. Less of an issue than it might otherwise be, since the Kanji table was so big to start with.

But it does limit my options with certain subtleties of the script, since there's no way to print a single character without another character next to it (even if it's just a space).This is probably an ignorant question, but couldn't you achieve those subtleties by making one-off characters in the table for just those situations? I imagine it could be irritatingly tedious to pick those sections out of the translation and change the addressing for those, but it would give you greater control over the dialog appearance. Would there just be too many of those for that to be feasible?

Or are you just referring to the fact that you can't print lines with odd numbers of characters (spaces included)?EDIT: Evidently this didn't post a couple of hours ago when I wrote it, but did as soon as I logged back in. It looks like the question was already answered. You're talking about voice timing.What I'd love to do (more as a fun vanity project, really) is to re-translate SS2 to give the English version all of the gravity and grimness that the original Japanese carried. A lot of the lines, translated properly and with the right tone, would shock long-time fans of the game.

Sadly, unless someone steps to hack it and get the script going for me (ideally with an 8x8 font), it won't happen.Now that would just be sacriligious. This community loves its Engrish language mode. It's officially translated in all of its raw typo-laden glory just for us.

CDs are not going to be distributed, at least not by me. I'm not going to be distributing anything that would put me in a legally actionable position.

If all goes well, I'm hoping that you'll be able to put in your original CD, run the patch EXE, it reads it, extracts the whole thing, patches the files it needs to, and writes the entire patched ISO to a file (or more ideally, to a new disc). But I'm not at that point yet. I'll need to find someone who can actually program to come up with that part of things. Get out of my current, upside-down, two-doors-away-from-a-bunch-of-heroin-junkies crapfest condo mortgage,2. Find an affordable house with at least three bedrooms and two full baths in decent shape, that's in a decent school district with a good special needs program (autism, specifically), and isn't too far from my work,3. Deal with getting taxes done in a fashion that's going to result in owing the government a couple hundred dollars (not much, but it's no refund),4.

Get all of the above accomplished in a way that's not going to annihilate my already-strained credit,and we'll talk. SSRPG is still being worked on.

Right now, it's just slow going, as it's not exactly priority #1. Work is busy, home has been busier at times.

That had to feel a little good to get off your chest aye?and in a 'perfect world' this is how I would help you, but keep in mind I'm just brainstorming here.first Idea for your number 1 problem.Burn that condo to the ground baby!!!! Also I can comfirm that when you apply this patch to the game it wont effect the game if its pre cdz patched unless the patcher.exe is looking for a total file size on the iso.It will not work on a prepatched copy of the game. The translation will just break it and cause it not to boot at all. This is not intentional on my part; it's just a simple fact. I'm going to have the patcher check for the CDZ-patched files and halt if it finds them, with an error message explaining that it needs the original, unmodified files from the CD in order to proceed.

I don't want to deal with a bunch of people who can't/won't/are too stupid to read a simple readme.txt.This patch WILL NOT BREAK ANY FORM OF COPY PROTECTION. The copyright on the game is still valid, and will remain so for another 60 or so years. I'm not going to deliberately place myself in a legally actionable position, just to save some folks on the internet a little bit of frustration and/or work.And as I've already requested, I would prefer there be no open discussion of how to get around said copy protection once the patch is applied, nor any of the patched files be hosted anywhere. The only form in which this translation will be made available will be the patcher itself, which will perform the necessary modifications and (if things go according to plan) build a new ISO.

EvilEvoIX, Deuce is trying to work in this project the fast that he can, just give him time. I know that you're crazy to put your hands in that patch and play it in your CDZ but we have to be patient.Because you aren't working on the project and neither do I, but I'm just waiting pantiently because I know is not an easy job what he's doing. I don't care how much time he needs to finish the patch I'll be waiting for it.And Deuce keep up the good work.:buttrock::downf::hcf::dragb::B::C: Haohmaru Special Attack(Deuce I had a problem trying to download the soundtrack of SSWarriors Rage for PSX, it says is not available or the file has been removed help me out in this one. I know this is not the place to talk about it but this is the only place I can get you.). Deuce you are so lazy, i wait for this to end for one year,how long do i have to wait?just tell us or quit this project immediately, you are a disgrace for game translators community, just do that job and give us your work for free, i can't wait.i love when stupid ppl give their work for free:drool:Hello douchebag,Nice try trolling, but it won't work. He's worked on it too long for some dicksmack to try to piss him off and get him not release it.

Go back to 4chan where you belong.Edit: Oh and we remember who you are. Your english hasn't gotten any better. I already asked him to pass me the tools, but he's being sarcastic and selfish.i dun care, i read japanese myself i dun care if he release is it or notLike I said, we knew it was you.

Why don't you try wishing ill on his family again? It worked so well for you last time.You know, the swine flu is pretty serious. Maybe you should do something more meaningful with your life than harass somebody over video games?i wanted the tools to translate it myself, that's why i am still pissed with Deuce.i will never forget what he didYou mean saying 'no' to widdle baby whineypants? Maybe you should grow up. Come on, i asked him nicely remember? Then he came up with all that bullshit.i was going to release my own spanish translation not english cuz english isn't my mother language, anyway i dun care now:lol:You asked like a 14-year old who already assumes the answer will be yes.

You offered no assurances that you have any skill or any idea what you were doing, and then you lost your shit when you were told to take your entitled attitude on down the street.You are not the victim, you're a whiner who's unwilling to do for himself. No ninja swung through deuce's window and gave him everything on a silver platter, so he's damn sure not gonna swing through yours. Besides, who knows what you could be doing to yourself in there. Nobody wants to see that.:angry. A question, however politely worded, may still be given the answer 'no.' Even if I had ever been inclined to give out the utilities used to make the translation, I would only do so with someone who could show some degree of ability and dedication to making a quality product, and whose work would not be based on my own. Since you show only a passing knowledge of English, and apparently no knowledge of Japanese, I have no faith that you would do anything other than make a bad Spanish translation, derived from my own English script.Wanting something and deserving it are two very different things.what if i die tomorrow?That would be lovely.

But you won't hear me pissing and moaning if you don't.

Ruoska rates this game: 3/5Decent 16-bit RPG, the only one on the NeoGeo. Nowhere near the Squaresoft greats of the era (Chrono, Mana, FF, Rudra, THG, FM1st) but not bad either. The game has three scenarios and lets you pick a party from the Samurai Shodown/Spirits characters. Very typical old school grindy gameplay.

Turn-based combat and all that. Neat graphics and music, but slightly annoying loading times due to the NGCD system. Not really worth the time and effort, especially since the game is Japanese only and there is no translation available. I finished all the scenarios with the help of a FAQ back in the day and haven't touched the game since.